Jealous of a Puppet - Gia Sandhu on the OPN Stage!

This is Gia Sandy, and you're listening to Open Pike Night, a most logical decision for a human.

Is this thing on? Hello, hello. Welcome to Open Pipe Knight, the Strange New World podcast where your calls are the prime directive. Gratitude is irrelevant. I'm your host, John T. Bold. Joining me tonight, of course, is my host, the man who knows that every problem is solved by a gong or more gongs, as many gongs as possible. Cameron Harrison.

There we go. The closest picture of Gong I could find.

And Jesse recently had an anxiety dream where our guest forced him to fight himself, and I think he was too scared to show up today. So we'll just have to uh wing it ourselves. And to introduce tonight's guest, we have to perform the welcoming ceremony just so. She's brought us warmth, humor, passion, and anger, but all through the most logical of filters, Spock's Star-Crossed fiance and our favorite Vulcan to Pring's Gia Sandu.

Hello, introduction.

Thank you.

Well, we are very excited to have you here. Uh since season one, I've I've just uh loved Depring. I've loved what you brought to her. And uh I'll say more, but perhaps I should allow our caller to start us off.

First, we have a word from our friend Michelle.

Hay Open Pike Night. Growing up on the original series, Amok Time was right up there with some of my favorite episodes of TOS. And I have to admit, to Pring was a character that I kind of struggled with because as a kid, watching it, loving Spock, uh, she does not come off so great. But I have to say, Gia's performance in season one of Strange New Worlds really brought me around on the character. And my question for Gia is: do you think that her subsequent appearance in season four is going to help fans better understand her motives for what happens in a mock time? And how do you think it can change the way viewers see to pring moving forward? Thank you so much for coming on Open Pike, Gia, and uh look forward to seeing your episode. Live long and prosper.

So Michelle sent that uh before all of season four had come out, but now that it's out, what do you think?

Well, now that it's out, we know that in the ghost episode, I'm a figment of Spock's imagination. And in the puppet episode, I am a part of a dream. Uh so I don't know that it necessarily adds very much value in terms of um creating a direct line into what happens in the original series. I guess there maybe is something to be said that Pike is approaching to pring because he's feeling disconnected from his Balkan side. And um, she she does agree to come on board to offer what she can. So I would say that maybe, you know, we do see a little bit more of the back and forth. So perhaps that lends itself just to, you know, the on-again, off again story. Not necessarily. I don't think we're we jumped so far ahead that we really understand exactly why uh Tippring behaved the way that she did and how Stone came along. Um I'm not sure that that's explained yet, but yeah, I mean I think it's just like uh developing that kind of uh tension between the Vulcan side and and the human side.

Do you think uh when all said and done, your portrayal of Tippering in Strange New Worlds will change how people view her in the original?

Yeah, I mean, I understand that she comes across harsh in in the original series. And I think, you know, what we wanted to develop throughout our series was just how how do we end up there? And I think with any sort of relationship that you know has a difficult ending, there's always two sides to the story. So in the original, you know, we have Spock is so thoroughly lived, he's one of the leads of the show, and so of course we get, you know, uh we're he's the protagonist, and uh only has that one episode. And so we don't really get a good look into who she is or what her motives are, and so yeah, we definitely want to develop that, but we want to give some sort of justification um about how she ends up where she does. And so I think I think throughout our show, I think that they they did, you know, they did a good job of of showing that the relationship is complicated, and it's not that to pring is harsh towards Spock the whole time. There's a lot of love and tenderness, and and there is a fight for him, and there is a desire to make the relationship work. So it's not one-sided in that way.

Well, I mean, I just watched like all just your scenes from the whole show earlier today, and it was very enlightening like watching just your scenes and and to pring as the main character is like she is putting so much into this relationship. She is studying like human sex books, she is putting up with her her family's judgment, her her co-workers' judgment, she all the stuff she is sacrificing for, and and the whole time, like Spock is just lying to her, like, oh no, everything's fine, nope, we're good, let's keep going. And uh it was very illuminating, I thought. So, how did you approach that character? Because I think it would be, you know, watching just amok time, it would be easy to play her as kind of like straight Vulcan or like the mean girlfriend, but I really feel like you've brought so much warmth and understanding to the character throughout. Like, did you have a strategy going into this character?

I mean, the thing about playing a Vulcan is that it's not you're not playing a robot. Um it's still playing a being that has emotion. It's just about how they handle those emotions and um, you know, they allow the logical mind to lead in their lives. And so I think that I mean, I think that perspective on it allows for a little bit of room and space to still have a little bit of emotion, you know. Um, and I think that there is a tension between showing a little bit of that, but then also coming back with the restraint. And so, in a way, it's a great exercise because the field in which you're playing as an actor, it is more limited, but within that, then you're trying to find as much depth and room to move around as possible. So it's like you're exploring a smaller field, but you're exploring it a lot more thoroughly.

And you didn't just play to pring in this show, you also played a little character called Spock. What was it like inhabiting arguably the most iconic TV character of all time? And how did you and Ethan work on portraying each other?

It was great. I mean, it was season one that we did that episode, and so I mean, I think Ethan and I we sat down at his apartment and we just kind of read our lines to each other and we recorded them for each other. So he was doing he was saying his lines as he normally would, which I now have to say, and vice versa. And so I think I just was like replaying what he was doing with it, and then also trying to find that within my own self and my own instrument. It was it was just like an exercise that I'd never done before as a performer. I've never had to play me playing to bring, playing small. So it was fun, and it was just it was just um it was just like a nice kind of experience to share that with another actor and to be able to offer something to them and have them offer something back. And it was, yeah, it was. I think I think the approach was it wasn't, you know, anything that we necessarily strategized um to excessively. It just kind of flowed naturally and yeah, it was great.

Usually in a body swap comedy, it's like a teenager and an adult, or uh, I mean, I guess this is a man and woman. It's it's two very broad differences. And here it was like two Vulcans. Did you do you try to find like, well, this is how this Vulcan would do this? Or I mean, did you find like any physical quirks or something to help you get into that character?

I mean, I think the joke is that uh in one of the scenes when when Pike comes on, he says something like, Oh yeah, sure, I can really tell the difference. Um, you two have embodied this is obviously a body swap. So, I mean, the joke really is is they seem very much the same as who they who they originally are. I mean, there's some slight posture differences. I think there's a lot of like Taprane normally has her hands in front of her, and so Ethan ended up embodying that, and I think my posture was a bit um trying to be a little bit more masculine, but you know, we've also we're wearing what we're wearing, so um, you know, it we are a little bit inhibited in that way, but um yeah, I mean there are there were some postural changes, and I think that that also kind of organically comes up also when you're playing with the tamber of your voice a little bit. So um different things kind of emerge and and it's um yeah, it wasn't it wasn't super organized, it was kind of just allowing uh us to be informed by each other and um seeing how it all kind of lent itself to the voice and to the body and what developed out of that and then and then trying to carry that through the episode.

I imagine it's hard to be masculine in some of uh topring's outfits. Speaking of which, let's hear from Abby. All right.

Hey, hey, OpenPike and Gia. Abby Summer from the First Flight podcast. First of all, Gia, I absolutely adore what you have brought to Tapring, and she is such a well-rounded character because of you and your performances. So thank you for all that you've done. Now, surprising absolutely no one who has listened to this show or talked to me, I would like to hear you talk a little bit about your costumes this season. I mean, the jewelry was impeccable. Even your puppet got the jewelry in the eyeshadow, which was just perfect. But I also want to ask you a little bit about did they paint your toenails on purpose for the Griffin incident, or did you happen to come in like that? I mean, I would assume that you have Nancy toenails all the time, but I loved the close-up there and the little detail that, of course, to bring it so put together, she painted her toenails. But you had glorious costumes, the trains on those dresses, absolutely perfection. So could you talk a little bit about how that helped you get into character and gosh a little bit about the costume department that deserves it? And please know that I am always hoping for more to bring, and I hope that you grace our screens again as her and that you grace our screens again many times in other things because you are delightful. Hope this finds you in yours well. Talk soon.

Yeah, costumes. Talk about working with Bernadette.

Bernadette Croft, the genius behind all of all of the visuals. Yeah, the the costumes are incredible. Just her imagination is so brilliant, and um her understanding of the characters, it's it's it's layered in in what we're wearing. And and um there is certainly something to the structure about to pring's outfits that do really inform the character. It's those corsets are usually quite tight, and so there's like a really bound physicality that comes through with that, and I think that that lends itself really well to to being a Vulcan, a female Vulcan, and uh toenails very important. We painted my toenails some sort of greenish color, yeah. We did know, we did hear that there was gonna be a close-up on the feet, and I think that was told to us on the day of, and luckily I didn't need to go for an extensive pedicure. Uh, it would have been nice to be told ahead of time, to be honest, but you know, we managed. It was okay. Um, and yeah, so painted my toenails green at the last minute once we found out that that was happening. But uh yeah, I mean it's just like the hair, the makeup, the wardrobe, including nails, it's it all kind of shapes the character and and everything comes together because of that. It it's it's such an important part of the show. And I think with to pring specifically, just Bernadette really does get to run wild and play. And yes, the puppet, the puppet did end up in the same outfit. And that one was actually it was the only time where they they got this 3D imaging machine and they went around my body with it, and uh suddenly my body was on a screen in like a grid format, and that well, first of all, I found out that I need to work on my posture, but second of all, um, what I learned was that they were able to make this uh yeah, this essentially a piece of jewelry that was like kind of plasticky, it was um almost felt like a 3D printing type of thing. So they made that, and that's the whole purple thing that you see around the chest area, and it was formed exactly to me.

I wonder what the uh the name of that toenail color is in Vulcan, logical green. I don't know. Well, we have one other caller who was also curious about the costumes, but had a very specific question.

Here is Charlotte. Charlotte here from the UK. We love to pring. It's really great to see her back this season. To Pring is incredibly glamorous and has the most amazing wardrobe. Which one of To Pring's dresses would you steal to add to your own wardrobe? Thank you.

You don't have to confess that you or did you, yeah.

I would say my favorite piece on the show it was really brief. I wore it as like a deep red sort of thing with a huge train on the back. I think it was just at the end of one of the episodes. It was so brief that I almost like it felt a little bit painful that that it was just you know one last scene where I got to to wear this magnificent outfit. I wish I had been able to keep that one. That was really spectacular. I mean, they all are, but that one was really something special.

There's no reason to feel embarrassed about wanting to keep a Bernard Eckroff costume. I I can imagine everybody wants to.

I also want to keep the puppet, didn't get to keep that either. And there were two of them.

I think I think all the actors, how many, how many actors are there? You could do like a Pike's 11 heist of the puppet so all the actors could get their puppets back. I think we need to make that very metastatric movie.

Absolutely. We we love the puppets, but before we loved the puppets, we loved Alora Petnayak and Michael Benniere as Depring's parents. Do you have any fun stories about working with your on-screen parents in charades?

We still have a group chat, and um, every once in a while it gets activated. Uh, they were wonderful. I mean, I think what was so special about them coming onto the set was that they were so excited to be there. They're genuine fans of the show, and it was like their excitement was permeable. There was something about them being there on that for that episode during those days where the whole cast and crew kind of lit up. There was just a different energy around the set, and it was really Alora and Michael who were just it was their enthusiasm, excitement, and just like unafraid to show that they're true fans and how excited they were to be a part of this extraordinary experience. And so I think that that in a way it's really just innocent and refreshing, and it also is a reminder, I think, to everybody who's on the show because you go to work every day and and it can get normalized. And so you kind of just see it through the eyes of somebody else, and you go, Oh, yeah, this is this is crazy. We're doing this, we're on Star Trek. What? You know? So that was that was what was really special about about them. It was the energy that they brought. And yeah, it totally translates on on onto the screen.

You guys really felt like a lived-in family. I mean, yeah, you only have a handful of scenes, but I'd watch a whole spin-off with like that sitcom. What was your relationship with Star Trek when you were hired?

Um, I had watched The Next Generation when I was young. So yeah, so so that was the series that that I grew up on. And um I think when it when it came to this series and finding out what the story was and that we were essentially going back in time, that was more exciting for my family, for the older generation, because they were watching the original, and I hadn't seen very much of the original, so that was my relationship with it.

Did you have any surprise Star Trek fans in your friend or family group that came out of the woodwork when you started?

Yes, absolutely. And you don't know until the topic comes up. I mean, one of my one of my friends who I lived with for a little while and shared a flat with. As soon as I told her that I was that I was on this show, she just completely was going there. She's like, wait, is it Uhura? Is it so? And I was like, whoa, what is going on here? How do you know all the characters' names and all of their stories? Die Hard Ben had no idea.

Well, uh, you were talking about working with Ethan, and I mean, one of the reasons, again, I love to pring, I love to pring and Spock. Like, I'm rooting for them, although I know their eventual fate. Like, I really want them to be together. And I think a big part of that is the on-screen chemistry you two have. Is that something as an actor? Is there a way you can kind of build that chemistry with a fellow actor? Or is it just kind of like some people have it, some people don't?

Um I'm not sure how chemistry building goes. I mean, I think with Ethan, it was easy and natural right from the right from the beginning, right from day one of episode one. And um I I don't know what to attribute it to. I think we were both just kind of there and really open and really eager for the experience. And I think that we just kind of let each other in and we were figuring the thing out together. Neither of us really knew what this was going to be. And so I think approaching something almost as like having like a blank canvas, even though you know we are playing developed characters, but in in our world, it was just, you know, who who are these people? Who are these people when they're when they were younger? And what is their relationship to each other? Like, let's figure this out together. And I think that maybe there's some sort of openness that allowed for the chemistry to read as it did. You know, it was just it was nice. Like Ethan's a wonderful, a wonderful actor and a wonderful person, and um, so he was just really, really easy to work with.

So going back to that first season and starting on this after having grown up watching The Next Generation, your first couple scenes were shot on the volume, which is the closest thing we have to a holodeck these days. What was it like the first time you had to shoot on that? Because really your first two scenes are just you and Spock in quiet moments before the show takes off. What was it like to film there and work on that new technology?

It was interesting because you walk onto the set, and yes, there's this wall all around you, but then when you look across the room, you see a whole bunch of people at computers in the dark operating this thing. And I'd never experienced anything like that. And so it's like a big operation, but it's also I think it's just it's so helpful to have that around you to understand exactly what the audience is going to be seeing later. I mean, regardless of whether you feel like you're, you know, transported into that world or not, you're certainly transported into something that doesn't feel like every day. So at the very least, there is a heightened sense of something going on. And that's really, really cool. Yeah, that's great.

Excellent. Well, we do have one more caller here.

Hey there, open pike night. This is Platy M3 calling in, asking about some hitch shits and giggles from Gia Sandu. Hi there, everyone. I usually call in, I give my good, bad, and just absolutely hilarious moments from the Strange New Worlds episode. But uh, Miss Sandu, I'm gonna ask yours. You've been on a few episodes now, what have been some of the scenes that you think were just the best to film? Were there any scenes that maybe you initially were like, oh, they want me to do that? And what just made you laugh on set? What was something that just cracked you up being there with the Strange New World crew? Also, got any good memories from Kim's Convenience? Absolutely love that show and your little arc there. All right, Flat EM3 signing off.

Well, I think one of the more difficult Difficult scenes to film. It was probably in this season where I had to cut off Spock's ear.

Axel told us about that, yeah.

That was challenging. I mean, it was the last shot of the night, and it was, I think, around midnight, we're shooting this thing, and there's like different people that are responsible for different parts of this. So, so you know, we've got props, who's got, you know, their bit, and then we've got stunts that has their bit, and then we've got me and Ethan in the middle trying to figure this thing out, and it was hard because those scissors, I mean, like maybe I have really weak fingers, I don't know, but those scissors were so hard to just do the scissor action with, and so I kept trying to do this, and when it's that difficult, it feels as though you don't have precision. And Ethan's actual ear was there, and so at one point he kind of moved a little bit. And I went, oh my god, I got him. And I didn't, I didn't, his ears are fine, but it was really, really challenging, and it was also feeling it just it was, it was actually the horror within the horror. That's what it was. I don't think I've ever felt so incompetent as an actor as I did that evening when I just couldn't get the scissors on the right line, and it had to be at the exact angle, and the green blood had to come out at the exact moment. It was just, it was a lot for that, that one little that one little thing. That was that was everything. That was challenging, hilarious, and yeah, that I think all of my feelings were were alive in in that.

How about Kim's convenience?

Kim's wow, that was a while ago. That was fun to do. You know, that that was an easy set to be on. Everyone was it was a similar feeling in the sense that everyone was just so excited about what they were doing. These were actors who were just genuinely thrilled to be working on something that they really, really loved. You know, uh out of that show, we've like ended up with, you know, real stars coming out of it. And um it was it was just like a wonderful thing to be a part of, like a truly Canadian experience as well. Um which, you know, when a Canadian show or film really takes off, it always just you know feels like you're a part of something special.

You're on season one, came back for season two. We missed you for three. When they called you back for four, was it a kind of a surprise or had you been expecting the call, or what what was your reaction when they brought you on for four?

No, definitely wasn't expecting the call, but was also really, really excited. I mean, I think during season one, Akiva did tell me that this we are gonna see their relationship developing over the course of over the course of the show. So I I I guess I I I did know that, but but I I would I didn't know that I would be coming back necessarily in four and to do two episodes in it. It was really great. And two episodes that are so different from each other, and also you know, there's a little bit more opportunity to play when you're doing a horror episode where you're to pring but not really to pring, and you're doing a puppet episode where you're to pring but not really to pring again. They I feel like they write really well when my character shows up, so or at least they're really unique episodes.

I again just re-watching all your scenes back. I was like, oh yeah, these are like a lot of my favorite scenes from the whole show, like a lot of my laugh out loud moments. Your gong line is my favorite like comedy line of the entire series. Like, I have an idea, we may need a gong. It's chef's kiss.

And and in, like you said, playing very different versions of to pring. So in the Griffin incident, you're actually portraying a figment of Spock's imagination. Did you approach that differently than you would like real to pring? Did you feel it was important for you as an actor to trick the audience into thinking it was really to pring there with him?

Yeah, I mean, when we were kind of trying to work out um the points where it would feel exactly bang on to print versus where there was, you know, a little bit of of room to veer away from that. I think what we ultimately found was that it it is Spock's imagination the entire time. And so you still are confined to his version of to pring. So, like, I mean, as much as I would love to have, you know, my Jack Nicholson moment in in in that episode, it just um it's yeah, you're still you still want to make sure that yes, of course, the audience has to believe that that this is really happening, but also like the truth is that it has to align with with what Spock with Smock thinking that it's to prank, at least up until the very end where you know she picks up the knife and and and he realizes that you know this is this is not to pring. So I mean, I think that was really the only moment where there was like a bit of a stretch, but also it's it's not very long, so so there isn't really much time to go and really do something, you know, really out there. So so it I I mean, yeah, overall I guess I guess we were trying to stay um close to to prank.

You didn't get a Jack Nicholson moment, but you did get a Michael Myers moment. I believe Axel said that was her favorite shot from the episode when you sit up in the background and I had also taking notice of like that. Is a great Michael Myers sit up. And that was you in the bag?

That was me in the bag. That was me in the bag. Actually, yes, you're right. I do remember Axel saying that. She's like, your situp is really good. I was like, yeah, it's all the Pilates.

Um everyone, do your Pilates so you can do a great Michael Myers sit-up. And then how about for the puppet? Kind of the same question. Did you approach voicing the puppet differently than you would human to bring?

I would say so, yes, because I mean you are limited once again by not having your face and body available to you. And so you're it's in a way you're kind of like channeling everything into the voice. And so there certainly is a lot more expression in the voice uh with the puppet than than I think would have been if I was actually on camera. But it was, I really enjoyed doing all of that voiceover work because it it's very technical and it feels like you can get really, really specific with it. And when you're telling the story just that way, it allows for like a lot more play within the character. And it's still still remaining in the world of being Vulcan, but um yeah, I think I think there was there was just like a lot more color that I felt I was allowed to have with the puppet version.

And scale of one to ten. You're you're gonna be the only one who can really judge this. The Spock puppet kiss, how was it?

I was jealous. Like, why do you guys have even more chemistry than you and I have? Like, what is going on here? Um, I hope they make it, honestly.

I I really think those kids got it got a future ahead of them, yeah. What was your reaction when you saw your puppet?

Oh, I mean, it's like a a bit of a mind-blowing experience because who gets a Muppet made after them? You know, it and there was some like I looked at and I went, oh, I can see myself. I don't know how exactly, I don't know like how to describe why this feels like me, but it does. Yeah, it was like a little eerie, creepy, cool. Yeah, it was really, really neat.

I really do wish I got to keep it, but so one of the reasons I think to pring works so well is even when she's got her barbs, even when she's kind of digging it at Spock, like I always feel it's you you deliver it almost as like an inside joke. There's a playfulness to it that I think uh really endears her to us. And again, I've noticed your very first scene, the engagement scene, the proposal scene, and Spock says I was beginning to think you would never ask, which I now believe was the idea. So even in the very first scene, we learned that like Dupreen kind of plays with Spock. Was that I don't know. Am I reading into it, or is that kind of the approach to her?

Yeah, I think there's like there is an intelligence to her, there is subtext usually, and I think that's made available even more so because the logical mind is so prominent. I think that underneath that there has to be a lot of layers and a lot of subtext, and a lot of what's not being said has to live somewhere in there, and so I also think that it like that kind of play with him lends itself to the chemistry that that we're talking about, that their flirtation is is that's what it is, that's their version of it, right? It's a lot in what's unsaid and um what the feeling is below below the surface and behind what's what's actually being communicated. And I think that there is an energy there, and I think that that's what the audience picks up on, is that these are two people, they might be saying one thing to each other, but there is just so much more that's actually below that. So, yeah, so so that's kind of like a nice thing to be able to have to have there.

And we asked about you know springs parents and charades, but also Mia Kirschner was the episode with you, and you got to work with her as as uh Spox mom. Like what what was that experience like?

It's great. I mean, we s we had uh all of a sudden a whole bunch of people on set that aren't always there, and so it was just like it was a fun party on set. And I remember during that episode shooting that episode, and you weren't really in our chairs very much in between scenes, we were all just kind of like hanging out, talking, and um it was just fun. There was a lot of like laughter on on that episode. I remember having just like a really, really fun and easy time, and and yeah, a little bit of a party, yeah.

What about the uh the ritual scene, the Spock stream sequence from the beginning of uh Spock amok where you make him fight himself? I was watching it and it seemed like a cool set to be on, and going through all the Vulcan rites and rituals must have been interesting.

Yeah, I mean, again, we were on that wall, and um what a costume that was, too. It was such a unique dress. Um a lot of sand. Um just like a lot of moving parts. Like that, that that was also quite a technical scene to shoot. So I mean, it was just there was like a lot of like cool camera work going on, and and there was like the whole fight scene, and it it just felt like you know, you're a part of something so much bigger than than just you know your own kind of tight little performance, and so you're serving a vision that you know is much wider. So, really, yeah, you're kind of just like one piece of this big puzzle, but it's it's fun, it's just like a different, a different way of participating than you know what you kind of get used to when you're really just performing as as an as an actor, yeah.

Yeah.

And speaking of being one part of a bigger puzzle, you're one part of a huge TV universe now, a huge piece of culture. What has that been like? What has it been like now that you are can be recognizably like, oh, you're from Star Trek, and for the rest of your life, you will, you know, some people will be like, oh, I saw you in Star Trek. How does that feel?

Yeah, it's great. I mean, I think it's it's such a such an iconic show, and it shows up in in it shows up all the time in our culture in so many different ways. I mean, so many other shows reference it. I was reading a novel whose name is escaping me, but it's referenced in there. And so every time you see the reference, you kind of go, oh yeah, I'm proud of that. Um, it's neat. I mean, see it on people's t-shirts. I think a neighbor down the street had clothes hung up somewhere, and there was a Star Trek t-shirt that I saw on a clothes line. Um yeah, it's just neat to when you start seeing it all around you, and you know, regardless of anybody approaching you as the character, but just you noticing that it really is a part of our part of our culture.

Do you ever meet people who know you primarily from Strange New Worlds and are surprised that you're not to pring?

Uh not to pring in what way?

In in b in mannerism, that you don't act Vulcan in real life.

Um I I I don't know that anyone's been surprised, but yeah, I mean, certainly like there's like so much warmth from from the fans, and I have a real appreciation for the enthusiasm about about the show. Something's telling me that they they had to, I think they were in a social studies class, some or social uh sociology class in university. Maybe this might be like two decades ago, but they had to study the original Star Trek series as a part of this class because it was one of the only shows that had a hopeful view of the world and the future and of humanity. They had mentioned that to me just just a couple of weeks ago, and I thought that that was that was like a really beautiful thing to be to say that oh in some way you're you've also ended up being a part of that.

Oh agreed. Two days ago, my girlfriend who's taken a mythology class right now, they're studying the Odyssey, and she's like, Hey, is there an Odyssey episode of Strange New Worlds? Like, oh yeah, the Lotus Eater. Like, oh yeah, he okay, he said I could use that as my example for one of these. Like, all right, let's fire it up.

So, I mean, one of our only criticisms of Strange New Worlds ever is that we always want more. Whatever it is, we want more. We would have loved to have seen more to pring. Is there an episode to pring did not appear in that you really wish you could have? Like, what episode would you have wanted to play around in?

You know what? I'm always jealous when they do the musical episodes. What a fun thing to be able to just put yourself on display. And like also, I think when I saw them all sing, I was like, how do all of you know how to sing? You're just all triple threats walking around. I had no idea.

Now, yeah, now I'm picturing like uh uh a whole song battle between Chapel and Tapring. It would have been good. Dang. Well, thank you so much uh again, Gia. I've I've really wanted to just tap into your brain because I I so much. I really do love this character. I really think they they knocked it out of the park with this one.

Thanks, thanks. I mean, it's it's a bit nerve-wracking for me hearing you say that you watched all my things in a row, but uh I I recommend everyone to do it.

It's a completely different story, and really like you finish and you're like, Yeah, I see why to bring this what she does in uh TLS. Like, I get it.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, there's like a real feminist quality to to this character, and um you really yeah, you definitely see you empathize with her and you feel for her, and the struggle is so human, actually. This woman who's just trying to fight for her relationship and also trying to keep her own integrity and trying to express her needs, and you know, that that's a human relationship. It's relatable.

Yeah. Thank you for joining us, and uh yeah, it's I I I don't know if we see to pring in in season five or not, but man, if if we've gotten everything we've gotten so far, it's been a fantastic run, and you have been a great addition to Stranger World.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. Lovely to be able to talk about it.

Hey everyone, Cameron from the editing studio here. Thank you so much for enjoying our Geo interview and all of our C to Four coverage. We are now, after this, going to be reverting back to our every other quickly coverage for our post season. Still lots of great coverage and episodes coming. Our C to 4 look back. We've got some interviews we're working on, both people we've been trying to get on for a long time. We've got that a few times before, and always enjoy having. And perhaps it's a fried guest as well. Lots of good stuff to look forward to. Just coming out a little slower fast. Thank you so much. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.